Jack Ma’s hometown, known for tea culture and natural beauty, has become a major hub for tech start-ups, including Alibaba.
Jack Ma: From English Teacher …
1964: Born in Hangzhou; parents were cultural/artistic workers who bought a radio for him to learn English
1984: Poor at math and struggled with the college entrance exam (Gaokao): passed only on the third try with a score that got him into Hangzhou Normal University, Foreign Languages department
1988: Worked an English teacher at Hangzhou Electronic Industry School
Jack Ma: “I Had a Lot of failures”
Jack Ma: … to Entrepreneur
1994 Haibo Translation Agency
1995: China Yellow Pages website (an online “phone book” for companies)
Within a few years this venture earned him significant profit (~5 million) and launched his Internet career.
Ma Yun’s Original Pitch (1999)
Alipay: The Business
How did it work?
What made it so successful?
Masayoshi Son: “He Had the Wrong Business plan”
Alibaba: Taking on China’s Banks
What’s Alipay’s business model?
How does it disrupt China’s banking model?
Banks in Mao’s China
In a command economy, banks were essentially branches of a single government “monobank” that held almost all financial assets.
Household savings were extremely low due to strict income control and few private businesses.
Transactions often bypassed money, especially in rural collectives.
The financial system was shallow, providing trade credit and payment services, but no long-term investment lending.
Banking Sector Reform
China reformed its banking system in the 1980s and 1990s to support a market economy by breaking up the old monobank into different institutions.
The People’s Bank of China (PBC) was transformed into a central bank.
Four large state-run commercial banks were established.
New laws in 1994-1995 created a legal structure for banks.
Three “policy banks” were set up for government-directed lending.
The China Bank Regulatory Commission (CBRC) was created in 2003.
Four Big Banks
Huge, dominant deposit-taking institutions with nationwide branches:
The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) is the world’s largest bank by assets.
The Construction Bank (CCB) evolved from the project financing parts of the old monobank.
The Bank of China (BOC) originated from foreign trade and exchange departments of the old monobank.
The Agriculture Bank of China (ABC)
Four Big Banks: Very Big Indeed
Policy Banks
Three Chinese policy banks – the China Development Bank (CDB), the Agricultural Development Bank, and the China Export-Import Bank – are directly controlled and 100% owned by the government.
The China Development Bank (CDB) is the largest and most important of these banks.
CDB’s core mission is to provide long-term financing for large infrastructure projects and priority industries: Three Gorges Dam, affordable housing, Belt and Road Initiative.
Private Banks
New banks, including local, joint-stock, and some foreign ones, were allowed entry after careful vetting but still have close ties to the government; truly private banks are rare and only recently recognized.
Foreign banks hold a small share of Chinese banking assets due to regulations, such as high capital requirements and fundraising limits, hindered foreign banks.
In 2014, China approved five new private banks located in pilot trade zones.
Two of these were “Internet only” banks, one controlled by Ant Financial.
Reforming Budget Constraints
Banking reforms in China required more than just institutional restructuring.
Zhu Rongji, 5th premier of China from 1998 to 2003, in charge of banking sector reform
Banks lent to unviable clients due to soft budget constraints, creating many “zombie firms” and a large buildup of nonperforming loans (NPLs).
The 1997-1998 Asian financial crisis highlighted the risks of using banks to support state-owned firms.
Banking Reform, 1998-2006
Between 1998 and 2006, China undertook a four-step process to fix its banking system.
Hardened banks’ budget constraints, centralizing control and making lending officers responsible for bad loans.
The government injected billions to bail out banks from legacy NPLs and established Asset Management Companies (AMCs) to purchase these bad loans.
Banks were forced to restructure internally.
Banks were recapitalized with billions and restructured into joint-stock corporations, some selling stakes to international investors.
China: Flow of Funds (2014)
How is primary income distributed among the household, business, and government sectors?
Household (trillions of RMB)
Business (trillions of RMB)
Government
Total domestic
Value added
15.7
43.9
4.8
64.4
Total disposable income
39.1
13.2
12.2
64.5
Savings
14.9
13.2
3.6
31.7
(Saving rate)
38%
100%
29%
49%
Gross capital formation
7.7
19.3
3.4
30.3
Net financing + acquisitions
7.2
-5.6
-0.2
1.4
How Money Moves: Key Takeaways (2014)
Households
Households (including small businesses) produce 24% of value added and save 38% of net income.
Households have a surplus of 7.2 trillion RMB available for lending to businesses.
Businesses
Business produces most of the GDP and transfers income and taxes.
Business retains 13.2 trillion RMB in profit but needs to borrow 5.6 trillion RMB from households for investment.
State sector
The financial sector helps businesses get loans from households.
The government is a large saver and has a surplus, offsetting budget deficits.
China as a whole saved 49% of national income in 2014.
Financial Repression: What it does
China’s system is largely financially repressive, channeling low-cost funds from households to businesses, especially state-owned ones.
Savers receive very low or negative returns and have few choices.
Banks and governments benefit from cheap funds, directing credit to favored borrowers (SOEs).
Households are restricted from buying financial assets other than bank deposits.
China’s Financial System: Deep and Narrow
China’s financial system was “deep” and “narrow” until around 2009.
Deep (high savings)
Households saved, deposited money in banks, which then lent to businesses.
The ratio of broad money (M2) to GDP increased significantly.
By 2016, China’s banking system was the largest globally and surpassed that of the entire Eurozone.
Narrow
Banks provided most corporate funding (80%), with bonds and stocks playing a smaller role.
The system began changing gradually after 2009, but remains bank-dominated because most banks are state-owned.
Financial Repression in Comparative Context
Japan and Korea also used financially repressed systems during their high-growth periods.
At minimum, China protected savers by maintaining a stable economy and adding interest to deposits during high inflation (until 1997).
This kept savings value intact, unlike in many transitional economies where inflation destroyed savings, such as Russia.
China funded State-Owned Enterprises (SOEs) by having its banks absorb costs, but it also left banks bankrupt and needing rescue by late 1990s.
Example of Financial Repression: Interest Rate Spreads
Interest rate spreads – the difference between interest rates on loans and those on deposit rates – were increased (above 3%) from 1999-2012 to help banks become profitable.
Nominal deposit rates stayed low (2%-4% after 1999), so real interest rates depended on inflation.
From 2003-2013, average real interest rates were negative, reducing household purchasing power.
This policy effectively transferred wealth from households to the banking system.
Yu’e Bao
Alibaba, through its asset management affiliate Ant Financial, is holding the largest money market fund (MMF) in the world – Yu’E Bao.
Banks profited from wide interest-rate spreads, but households were not motivated to deposit savings in the bank: savings deposits grew slowly 2003 and 2012.
Interest rates were capped by regulators; lending was restricted to 75% of deposits.
Ambitious institutions such as Alipay matched savers and borrowers at higher rates for greater profit.
Shadow Banking in Action: “Wealth-management products”
Bank credit was the main financing method until 2009.
After 2009, banks offered “wealth-management products” (WMPs) with higher rates.
WMP funds were invested in bonds, money markets, nonstandardized debt, bank deposits, and equity-like instruments: off-balance-sheet products bundling various, often risky, financial assets.
But everyone gains, right?
Banks could get funds and make new investments off their balance sheets.
Consumers could participate in nonbank financing through wealth-management products (WMPs) and earn higher rates.
Businesses gained new funding to businesses.
Policy-makers: WMPs and shadow banking contribute to the diversification and restructuring of the economy.
WMPs: Debt and Risks
Financial are highest during periods of liberalization and systemic change.
China’s total debt has rapidly increased: Leverage increases both investment returns and financial risk.
WMPs are not deposits, and the risks are not explained to savers, who may take on more risk expecting government bailouts.
Debts are frequently rolled over (“evergreened”) instead of being restructured.
Within the banking system, budget constraints – the target of bank restructuring in the early 2000s – became softer since the 2008 Financial Crisis.
Peer-to-peer lending in China
P2P lending is an online platform that connects borrowers and lenders.
The industry grew rapidly due to financial constraints faced by small businesses and consumers and lax regulation.
Direct model: Platform acted purely as intermediary by providing credit information about borrowers and connecting them to lenders.
Self-guarantee model: Guaranteed borrower repayment to investors, sometimes through third party.
P2P Crackdown
Some platforms acted like banks, sometimes lending to risky borrowers or governments.
At times, this was intentional, as borrowers consisted of local governments that could not otherwise fund infrastructure projects.
Riskier models, like platforms guaranteeing repayments, caused failures.
Strict regulations imposed in 2018-2019 led to the P2P industry’s near elimination.
Back Alley Banking
Shadow banks function like regular banks but with less regulatory oversight.
They facilitate financial intermediation, turning short-term funds into long-term loans and managing risk.
The shadow banking sector is diverse and hard to define precisely.
Large state-owned banks can also engage in shadow banking activities, often off their official balance sheets.
Ma Yun Speech at 2020 Bund Summit
China’s financial sector, like other developing countries that have just grown up, is a young industry that does not have a mature ecosystem and is not fully moving. China has many big banks. They are more like big rivers or arteries in our body’s circulatory system, but today we need more lakes, ponds, streams and tributaries, all kinds of swamps. Without these parts of the ecosystem, we will die when we are flooded, and die when we are in a drought. So, today we are a country that bears the risk of lacking a healthy financial system, and we need to build a healthy financial system, not worry about financial systemic risks.
Ma Yun Speech: 2/4
Many of the world’s problems today, including China’s, can only be solved by innovation. However, for real innovation to happen, no one will show you the way, and someone must shoulder that responsibility, because innovation is bound to make mistakes. But the question is not how not to make mistakes, but whether we can perfect and correct them after making mistakes and persistently innovate. To make risk-free innovation is to stifle innovation, and there is no risk-free innovation in this world.
Ma Yun Speech: 3/4
We have always emphasized that Internet-powered finance must have three core elements: first, it must have rich data; second, it must have risk control technology based on rich big data; and third, it must have a credit-based system built on big data. Using these three criteria to evaluate, we can see that P2P is not Internet-powered finance at all, but today we cannot negate the innovation that the Internet has brought to finance just because of P2P. […] Innovation mainly comes from the marketplace, innovation comes from the grassroots, innovation comes from young people.
Ma Yun Speech: 4/4
What President Xi said about “enhancing governing ability” means to maintain healthy and sustainable development under orderly regulation, not no development due to regulation. It is not difficult to regulate. What’s difficult is to deliver regulation that achieves the purpose of producing sustainable and healthy development. […] It is normal for innovation to be ahead of regulation, but when innovation is too far ahead of regulation, when innovation’s richness and depth is far beyond regulator’s imagination, it is no longer normal, and society and the world will be thrown into chaos.
A Costly Speech
Oct 24, 2020: Jack Ma’s critical speech at the Shanghai Bund Financial Summit preceded regulatory action
Nov: Within days Ant Group’s IPO was halted and regulatory scrutiny intensified.
Ma retreated from Alibaba business and left China
Discuss: Jack Ma’s Speech
Does Jack Ma have a point?
How might the party respond?
What caused the ultimate conflict?
China’s Tech Crackdown
2020–2024: Jack Ma retreats from public life
June 2021: Regulatory crackdowns on platform companies continued; Didi’s U.S. listing dropped
Jan 7, 2023: Ant Group announced an equity adjustment that effectively removed Jack Ma’s actual control.
Ant’s Failed IPO: More than just a Crackdown on Private Entrepreneurs?
Was Alipay too big to fail?
How should Alipay and other fintech companies be regulated?
Should the crackdown be understood as anti-trust?
Jack Ma and China’s Red Capitalists
Jack Ma and China’s Red Capitalists, continued
2012: Pre‑IPO equity transactions added major strategic shareholders with CCP connections (e.g., Boyu Capital, CITIC Capital, China Development Bank Financial, New Horizon Capital, Beijing Zhaode Investment).
Xiao Jianhua – associated with CCP’s red princelings and currently detained for bribery and corruption – secured over $1 billion in lucrative shares in Mr. Ma’s businesses through his company Tomorrow Group.
Jack Ma denies any knowledge of the transactions.
Jack Ma: On the 996 Work Routine
Jack Ma is Back
2025-01-07: President Xi Jinping shook hands during a symposium on private sector
What should Alibaba do next?
How should the CCP manage its relationship with private entrepreneurs?
What would be the next chapter for Alibaba, for Jack Ma, and for China?